1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:23,210 [Music] 2 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:25,990 you 3 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:29,380 my name is grant Cameron and the way I 4 00:00:35,530 --> 00:00:31,970 got into the UFO field was very simple 5 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:35,540 it was 1975 I live just north of the 6 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:38,239 American border above North Dakota but 7 00:00:42,700 --> 00:00:40,550 60 miles from the border and what 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:42,710 happened was there was a small town 9 00:00:47,290 --> 00:00:45,050 called Carmen Manitoba where there was a 10 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:47,300 bunch of UFO sightings taking place and 11 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:50,000 went on for the entire year it started 12 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:52,070 in February the local I live in a big 13 00:00:56,979 --> 00:00:54,110 city 607 housing 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:00:56,989 and the local media was carrying the 15 00:01:01,330 --> 00:00:59,570 story and I had no interest in UFOs I 16 00:01:03,729 --> 00:01:01,340 can't ever remember having thought about 17 00:01:05,290 --> 00:01:03,739 extraterrestrial life or anything I was 18 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:05,300 interested in near-death experiences 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:07,160 because I had done a study at the 20 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:10,610 hospitals with chaplains and I had gone 21 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:12,080 to the hospital stylist course it's a 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:14,000 weird questions like do people ever 23 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:16,490 predict their death does anybody ever 24 00:01:19,570 --> 00:01:18,110 see someone coming to pick them up when 25 00:01:21,330 --> 00:01:19,580 they were just before they die a 26 00:01:23,710 --> 00:01:21,340 relative comes to pick them up 27 00:01:26,050 --> 00:01:23,720 does anybody have a near-death 28 00:01:27,580 --> 00:01:26,060 experience all this kind of stuff does 29 00:01:29,469 --> 00:01:27,590 anybody ever predict their death so I 30 00:01:30,999 --> 00:01:29,479 ask these things and I did a paper when 31 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:31,009 I was at the University and it was 32 00:01:35,469 --> 00:01:32,750 interested in Edgar Cayce but I can't 33 00:01:37,029 --> 00:01:35,479 remember ever thinking about UFOs so 34 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:37,039 what happened was the sighting started 35 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:38,509 and I we used to drive around the city 36 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:42,380 as young 20-some year old kids so we 37 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,200 instead of driving around the city I 38 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:46,880 said let's go out and to Carmen and 39 00:01:50,980 --> 00:01:49,280 let's see whatever he's looking at my 40 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,990 friend said okay we'll do it and we 41 00:01:54,999 --> 00:01:53,119 didn't do it we didn't do it for three 42 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,009 months what happened in three months 43 00:01:59,859 --> 00:01:57,920 later was May of 1975 the local TV 44 00:02:01,180 --> 00:01:59,869 station managed to catch this thing 45 00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:01,190 jumping off the ground they had it 46 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:03,080 surrounded on the ground and there was a 47 00:02:05,650 --> 00:02:04,550 film crew there and they managed to 48 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:05,660 catch this thing as it jumped off the 49 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:08,090 ground and it became a viral story in my 50 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:11,480 city NBC News picked it up it was a big 51 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:13,280 story and that's when I said to my 52 00:02:16,690 --> 00:02:14,720 friend come on let's go see what to 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:16,700 looking at not that had any interest in 54 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:19,370 it and the way I describe it is it's 55 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:21,230 like buying the lottery ticket and you 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:23,150 know there's a chance you can win but 57 00:02:25,660 --> 00:02:24,410 you know you're not going to win I'm 58 00:02:27,309 --> 00:02:25,670 going to go out there every else sees it 59 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:27,319 we're not going to see anything so we 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:29,599 went out to the small town about 11 61 00:02:33,550 --> 00:02:31,970 o'clock at night we drove into town for 62 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:33,560 a lot of time drove into town we're 63 00:02:38,399 --> 00:02:36,099 looking around at stuff and 64 00:02:40,050 --> 00:02:38,409 we said we're looking at and we look at 65 00:02:41,009 --> 00:02:40,060 planets the Stars and well that's what 66 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:41,019 they're looking at it's not very 67 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:42,250 impressive we had no idea whatever he's 68 00:02:46,289 --> 00:02:44,290 looking at my friend said after an hour 69 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:46,299 he said we'll drive into town one more 70 00:02:51,089 --> 00:02:48,879 time if we don't say anything let's go I 71 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:51,099 said fantastic this is a total waste of 72 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:53,769 time we turned to go back into town and 73 00:02:59,309 --> 00:02:55,540 it appeared coming from the left to the 74 00:03:01,319 --> 00:02:59,319 right it looked like it was alive nobody 75 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:01,329 in the car said is that what they're 76 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:02,590 looking at is that what it is 77 00:03:06,690 --> 00:03:04,720 everybody just instantly said there it 78 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:06,700 is every new instantly because it was 79 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:09,340 just so bizarre and it was coming from 80 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:11,290 the left moving to the right he was down 81 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:13,510 low moving very very slow across the 82 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:15,730 road it wasn't a light in the sky it was 83 00:03:20,250 --> 00:03:17,590 an actual object in sort of 30 close 84 00:03:22,259 --> 00:03:20,260 maybe half a mile 3/4 of a mile down the 85 00:03:24,569 --> 00:03:22,269 road it was bobbing up and down is 86 00:03:26,490 --> 00:03:24,579 moving up and down and it just like I 87 00:03:29,039 --> 00:03:26,500 was just floored I couldn't believe that 88 00:03:30,509 --> 00:03:29,049 I'd actually seen something so he's 89 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:30,519 going in behind the set of school buses 90 00:03:33,089 --> 00:03:31,750 and I remember the car was still moving 91 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:33,099 and I was getting out of the cars and 92 00:03:37,530 --> 00:03:34,180 still moving because I wanted to run to 93 00:03:38,610 --> 00:03:37,540 the ditch to these school buses because 94 00:03:40,110 --> 00:03:38,620 I knew it's going to go in behind the 95 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:40,120 school bus it was so low I wouldn't see 96 00:03:44,699 --> 00:03:41,879 it anymore and I just watch this thing 97 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:44,709 sort of pulse away it was pulsing and 98 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:46,959 just flew off into the distance and when 99 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:49,329 our two nights later dragged all my 100 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:51,909 friends I was there there was 28 people 101 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:53,769 sitting on the side road in the middle 102 00:03:58,469 --> 00:03:55,479 of nowhere from all different people 103 00:04:00,030 --> 00:03:58,479 directions the second day it came right 104 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:00,040 at us but most of the people had left 105 00:04:03,839 --> 00:04:02,049 there's only two cars maybe eight people 106 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:03,849 left when the thing finally came and 107 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:06,190 that night it came right at us right at 108 00:04:09,689 --> 00:04:07,840 us and it sort of came right at us and 109 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:09,699 then it sort of moved and it sort of 110 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:11,560 flew away and it had a little green glow 111 00:04:16,020 --> 00:04:13,900 on the back and it's red pulsing object 112 00:04:17,849 --> 00:04:16,030 and I was just floored I'm thinking I 113 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:17,859 might actually be someone from another 114 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:19,840 planet I was just floored and then I 115 00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:21,519 because I had been a big story in the 116 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:25,990 media then I decided to find out why 117 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:27,820 nobody was investigating this why was 118 00:04:31,050 --> 00:04:29,680 nobody talking to people in town because 119 00:04:32,580 --> 00:04:31,060 the rumours story was that half the 120 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:32,590 people in town we're seeing this thing 121 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:34,750 it was flying there every night so that 122 00:04:38,189 --> 00:04:36,130 what I did is I gathered all the 123 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:38,199 material together and I interviewed 124 00:04:43,409 --> 00:04:41,500 piles hundreds of people and basically 125 00:04:44,969 --> 00:04:43,419 nobody wanted to talk they would just 126 00:04:47,070 --> 00:04:44,979 say how did you know I saw something and 127 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:47,080 I'd say well so-and-so told me and then 128 00:04:50,050 --> 00:04:48,110 I'd go 129 00:04:51,369 --> 00:04:50,060 well I saw something but it really was 130 00:04:52,689 --> 00:04:51,379 nothing and they'd start that way and 131 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:52,699 then by the end of the interview they 132 00:04:56,559 --> 00:04:54,650 would be telling you basically what they 133 00:04:58,270 --> 00:04:56,569 saw and then they would say I was the 134 00:04:59,980 --> 00:04:58,280 only one that thought you know and then 135 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,990 they give you three or four names so at 136 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:01,520 one point I had like 300 people on a 137 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:03,740 list I didn't interviewed yet I put all 138 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:06,080 this together in a book in a manuscript 139 00:05:11,020 --> 00:05:08,090 and I tried to get it published in 1977 140 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:11,030 and nobody would publish it and the 141 00:05:14,830 --> 00:05:13,520 local publisher in the city of 700,000 142 00:05:17,559 --> 00:05:14,840 people where everybody knew about this 143 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:17,569 story said Mr Cameron you may believe in 144 00:05:22,209 --> 00:05:19,430 this kind of stuff count me among the 145 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:22,219 unbelievers and I went oh it has been a 146 00:05:27,369 --> 00:05:24,289 total waste of time and it was from that 147 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:27,379 moment on which transitioned me is I 148 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:29,690 said all I'm interested in now I'm not 149 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:31,190 interested in anybody sightings what 150 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:32,210 people so I'm not going to try to 151 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:34,639 convince you what it was what it was all 152 00:05:38,350 --> 00:05:36,650 I'm interested in is what was that 153 00:05:40,689 --> 00:05:38,360 object that came in front of my car that 154 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,699 night somebody in this world must know 155 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:42,800 what that is I'm just a little guy in 156 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:44,690 the prairies in Canada somebody knows 157 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:47,449 and so I started this process I first 158 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:48,830 went to Kane government to what the Kane 159 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:51,680 government had known I ended up chasing 160 00:05:54,969 --> 00:05:52,969 around the president of Penn State 161 00:05:56,019 --> 00:05:54,979 University for eight years and he knew 162 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:56,029 what was going on but he didn't want to 163 00:05:59,529 --> 00:05:57,110 talk about it we had a bunch of 164 00:06:00,850 --> 00:05:59,539 researchers and he led us to the 165 00:06:03,459 --> 00:06:00,860 president's he was going to give some of 166 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:03,469 the material to the library the Truman 167 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:05,810 library in Independence Missouri and it 168 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:07,039 was at that moment when I got to the 169 00:06:10,749 --> 00:06:08,870 independence library looking for dr. 170 00:06:12,969 --> 00:06:10,759 Eric Walker from Penn State at his 171 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,979 material it was at that point they 172 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:14,240 didn't have the material that I was 173 00:06:20,350 --> 00:06:17,690 looking for and I said what he got on 174 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:20,360 UFOs and I'm thinking the president of 175 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:22,039 United States has got to know he's the 176 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:24,050 most powerful man in the world and all 177 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:27,650 they had was a bunch of telegrams that 178 00:06:32,499 --> 00:06:29,620 had been sent to the president in 1952 179 00:06:34,180 --> 00:06:32,509 when the UFOs flew over the White House 180 00:06:35,860 --> 00:06:34,190 and they because he had put down a 181 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:35,870 shoot-down order after the first week 182 00:06:38,589 --> 00:06:36,800 they were there 183 00:06:41,019 --> 00:06:38,599 Truman put out a shoot-down order and 184 00:06:43,450 --> 00:06:41,029 this went viral on newspapers across 185 00:06:45,339 --> 00:06:43,460 America and all these people send it in 186 00:06:47,379 --> 00:06:45,349 telegrams to say mr. president don't 187 00:06:48,850 --> 00:06:47,389 shoot him down so they had those and 188 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:48,860 they had a couple other documents and 189 00:06:53,769 --> 00:06:51,310 I'm thinking that's pretty strange 190 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:53,779 there's really nothing here and then 191 00:06:58,749 --> 00:06:55,750 what happened there was down the road 192 00:07:00,610 --> 00:06:58,759 from Independence Missouri as Abilene 193 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:00,620 Kansas it's maybe two hour 194 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:02,150 drive west and that's where the 195 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:03,410 Eisenhower libraries then with the 196 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:05,510 Eisenhower library and you have to be 197 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:06,830 interviewed it's a very formal place 198 00:07:11,409 --> 00:07:09,440 people wear suits and dyes and stuff so 199 00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:11,419 I went in there and I said I want to 200 00:07:14,650 --> 00:07:12,680 know what the president's and I was 201 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:14,660 going for my interview and they had five 202 00:07:18,219 --> 00:07:16,490 documents and I said well how many pages 203 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:18,229 of documents you have they said we have 204 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:20,960 28 million pages and that that woman I 205 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:22,820 said something's wrong here 206 00:07:27,070 --> 00:07:25,070 five documents and there's 28 million 207 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:27,080 pages something's going on where are the 208 00:07:31,930 --> 00:07:29,210 documents and so I started this pursuit 209 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:31,940 of chasing around from library to 210 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:33,650 library presidential libraries looking 211 00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:35,720 for you over documents basically found 212 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:37,400 out there really are none in the 213 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:38,690 presidential libraries except for 214 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:40,220 letters that people send to the 215 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:41,870 president just very sort of non 216 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:46,240 classified stuff and I did that for 217 00:07:53,409 --> 00:07:50,150 probably thirty years till February 26 218 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:53,419 2012 and it was at that time when I was 219 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:55,310 watching Colin Andrews the famous crop 220 00:08:00,969 --> 00:07:57,770 circle guy give a lecture in Phoenix 221 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:00,979 Arizona and I had no interest in being 222 00:08:05,469 --> 00:08:03,260 in the lecture I'm not interested in 223 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:05,479 crop circles the only reason I went into 224 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:07,190 the lecture because he's a prominent guy 225 00:08:10,270 --> 00:08:08,510 is sort of like the Rolling Stones are 226 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:10,280 in town I'm not into the Rolling Stones 227 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:11,599 but let's go watch The Rolling Stones he 228 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:13,490 was like a big name so I figured I 229 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:15,410 should pay him the respect going to his 230 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:18,289 lecture and watch him lecture so I was 231 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:19,550 in the lecture but I didn't want to be 232 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:21,200 in the lecture I really wasn't paying 233 00:08:25,570 --> 00:08:23,090 attention to what he was saying and I 234 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,580 got what I described as a download this 235 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:27,680 material came instantaneously into my 236 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:30,080 head it was material that I had gathered 237 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:32,510 through the years and what it does took 238 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:33,890 three pieces of information that I'd 239 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:35,630 gathered it puts them together in my 240 00:08:41,079 --> 00:08:38,959 head and basically assured me this is 241 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:41,089 how it works it just and I came with 242 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:43,370 absolute certainty and I suddenly went I 243 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:45,440 know it was the answer I've been looking 244 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:48,410 for since 1975 I had the answer it was 245 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:50,300 like I put on the glasses I can now read 246 00:08:54,970 --> 00:08:52,130 the street signs and it was the whole 247 00:08:57,250 --> 00:08:54,980 idea that consciousness non-local 248 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:57,260 consciousness is the basis of the UFO 249 00:09:02,710 --> 00:08:59,839 phenomena that until you get away from 250 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:02,720 the physical idea of UFOs and get to the 251 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:05,180 fact that these whoever these beings are 252 00:09:09,819 --> 00:09:07,370 that they can move from the dream world 253 00:09:12,940 --> 00:09:09,829 into the real world that there's this 254 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:12,950 non-local non-physical aspect of the 255 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:14,390 thing or even more 256 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:16,850 directly the consciousness is the basis 257 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:18,860 of the universe not matter consciousness 258 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:20,510 is the basis and you do not have a 259 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:21,980 particle take a position in time and 260 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:23,930 space until you have an observer until 261 00:09:26,350 --> 00:09:24,769 there's consciousness 262 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:26,360 everything's consciousness everything's 263 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:28,160 conscious everything is life so all this 264 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:30,769 came to me instantaneously and then I 265 00:09:33,790 --> 00:09:32,450 just be of all my UFO documents I was 266 00:09:35,769 --> 00:09:33,800 famous for getting the Rockefeller 267 00:09:37,449 --> 00:09:35,779 initiative documents which were the 268 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:37,459 thousand pages of documents from the 269 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:39,170 Clinton White House when Laurance 270 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:40,550 Rockefeller went to the clinton white 271 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:43,130 house demanding UFO disclosure and i had 272 00:09:47,019 --> 00:09:44,930 filed an FOI a and i got a thousand 273 00:09:49,060 --> 00:09:47,029 pages of the correspondence going back 274 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:49,070 and forth between rockefeller and the 275 00:09:53,370 --> 00:09:50,240 people in the Clinton White House 276 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:53,380 basically showed that the Clintons were 277 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:56,510 reuniting a Roswell report that 278 00:10:00,819 --> 00:09:58,610 Rockefeller was ready to put an ad in 279 00:10:02,110 --> 00:10:00,829 the paper and expose the president that 280 00:10:04,030 --> 00:10:02,120 the president knew what was going on and 281 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:04,040 he wasn't telling all those documents 282 00:10:08,319 --> 00:10:06,170 once I had the download experience I 283 00:10:11,199 --> 00:10:08,329 said the president knows what's going on 284 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:11,209 he's never going to tell you and this is 285 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:11,930 a waste of time 286 00:10:18,939 --> 00:10:15,279 so I gave all my UFO documents away to a 287 00:10:20,889 --> 00:10:18,949 PhD guy in Salt Lake City and I said I 288 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:20,899 don't need him anymore I'm going to do 289 00:10:25,689 --> 00:10:23,510 consciousness now and twice I've been 290 00:10:28,060 --> 00:10:25,699 dragged back into the what I call the 291 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:28,070 rat hole of disclosure and government 292 00:10:34,329 --> 00:10:31,370 one was Hillary Clinton in when she was 293 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:34,339 running for president 2016 she suddenly 294 00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:35,839 came out and said if I become president 295 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:38,630 I will disclose the UFO situation and 296 00:10:42,699 --> 00:10:41,300 she said do you know to the reporter 297 00:10:44,740 --> 00:10:42,709 that Astrid do you know that the most 298 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:44,750 requested item at the Clinton Library is 299 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:48,410 UFOs and those were my f.y.i because I 300 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:50,060 had the Rockefeller initiative documents 301 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:52,310 a thousand pages I knew all the people 302 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:55,250 all the players so when Clinton left 303 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:57,680 office he has five years to review his 304 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:00,560 papers after he leaves the bill do his 305 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,570 memoirs or whatever and then it's 306 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:04,640 first-come first-serve foi that's how 307 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:06,529 they open the documents so you put in an 308 00:11:12,189 --> 00:11:09,230 FOI a report or you put in fo a request 309 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:12,199 for clinton a ufos John Podesta and UFOs 310 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:14,480 Hillary Clinton and UFOs the other 311 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:16,190 Clinton and Rockefellers he put a 312 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:18,649 hundred foi a reports in there and so 313 00:11:23,079 --> 00:11:19,970 when Hillary's interviewed she wrote 314 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:23,089 references these F wise and I go she's 315 00:11:27,579 --> 00:11:24,980 actually paying attention she's actually 316 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:27,589 they actually know what I'm doing and so 317 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:28,760 then I had so much 318 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:30,920 material I put out a book called the 319 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Clinton UFO story book which talks about 320 00:11:37,210 --> 00:11:35,090 the very great involvement of the 321 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:37,220 Clintons over the years in the UFO 322 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:39,080 phenomena fascinated with UFO phenomena 323 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:40,850 they're fascinated in New Age 324 00:11:45,730 --> 00:11:43,370 spirituality and stuff like this I put 325 00:11:47,260 --> 00:11:45,740 it out then I said okay I got to get 326 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:47,270 back out of this rat hole again and I 327 00:11:52,930 --> 00:11:50,090 left again and I got back into the 328 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:52,940 consciousness thing and the mind and how 329 00:11:58,630 --> 00:11:55,130 this all works and what I think the 330 00:12:00,190 --> 00:11:58,640 answer is and just recently I just put 331 00:12:02,350 --> 00:12:00,200 out a book about a week ago called 332 00:12:04,030 --> 00:12:02,360 managing magic the government's UFO 333 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:04,040 disclosure plan and I've been dragged 334 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:06,500 back in again because what's happened is 335 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:09,440 Tom DeLonge who's a was a lead singer of 336 00:12:18,510 --> 00:12:13,760 blink-182 very very powerful rock star 337 00:12:21,730 --> 00:12:18,520 sold 30 million albums as big YouTube 338 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:21,740 channel also has whenever he tweets he 339 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:23,930 gets like 15,000 retweets of what he 340 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:27,200 puts out very powerful guy has been 341 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:29,150 contacted by the government Ken 342 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:31,010 witnesses he says inside the government 343 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:33,800 who are providing him material when I 344 00:12:38,590 --> 00:12:36,530 saw that I said I've seen this before 345 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:38,600 fact I've seen is 50 times before 346 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:42,290 they're doing it again and so I wrote 347 00:12:47,410 --> 00:12:45,470 this book which details from 1945 all 348 00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:47,420 the way up to the present time how's it 349 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:48,950 contacted Walt Disney to do a 350 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:51,380 documentary they contacted the governor 351 00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:53,570 Bob EMA to do two documentaries 352 00:12:58,180 --> 00:12:56,360 how they fed material that most of what 353 00:12:59,740 --> 00:12:58,190 we believed in the UFO community we have 354 00:13:02,710 --> 00:12:59,750 not figured out where it has been leaked 355 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:02,720 to us two documents that we think are 356 00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:03,950 phony and the documents probably are 357 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:06,350 phony but they have true material so 358 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:10,730 that I wrote this thing to counter to 359 00:13:14,650 --> 00:13:13,070 describe this process that I believe the 360 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:14,660 government's using and I describe it as 361 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:16,790 14 magicians these are people that have 362 00:13:22,390 --> 00:13:18,980 been briefed they're generally retired 363 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:22,400 CIA people who are there to get the 364 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:25,190 material into the into the public then 365 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:27,320 there are five messiahs who are people 366 00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:30,430 who believe that is their mission to 367 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:32,630 bring disclosure to the people one is 368 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:35,650 Steven Greer one is Tom's along one is 369 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Bill Moore and these people who believe 370 00:13:41,230 --> 00:13:40,130 and these are the people they leaked the 371 00:13:42,970 --> 00:13:41,240 material to 372 00:13:45,249 --> 00:13:42,980 and these people all have sort of flaws 373 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:45,259 in their character so that what happens 374 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:47,360 is for example when Stephen group had 375 00:13:51,249 --> 00:13:49,610 step forward he puts it out never goes 376 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:51,259 out Stephen career he's this he's that 377 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:52,850 and people hate Stephen Greer 378 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:54,800 but the story gets out so I wrote this 379 00:14:00,369 --> 00:13:56,480 book to detail that and the other thing 380 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:00,379 that I spent a lot of time on now is I'm 381 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:01,550 one of the people who believes there are 382 00:14:05,169 --> 00:14:03,170 no evil aliens there are no evil 383 00:14:08,429 --> 00:14:05,179 governments there are no evil Nations 384 00:14:11,019 --> 00:14:08,439 there are no evil nothing we are Souls 385 00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:11,029 reincarnating life after life after life 386 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:13,429 and in with the and everybody there is 387 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:15,110 good and there's evil you do good things 388 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:16,850 you do bad things I do good things to 389 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,529 bad things and what Tom DeLong's 390 00:14:26,319 --> 00:14:20,480 statement because he's such a powerful 391 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:26,329 figure in the media his idea is that the 392 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:28,610 greys are evil and that we are going to 393 00:14:31,329 --> 00:14:29,990 use nuclear weapons and we're going to 394 00:14:33,009 --> 00:14:31,339 detonate nuclear weapons in the high 395 00:14:35,859 --> 00:14:33,019 atmosphere and we're going to take out 396 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:35,869 the greys and I said there is no way he 397 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:37,850 is going to put this out into the public 398 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:40,160 without somebody given the other side of 399 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:41,689 the story so that's why I got dragged 400 00:14:45,249 --> 00:14:43,309 back in again I said first I'm going to 401 00:14:47,379 --> 00:14:45,259 write an article countering this evil 402 00:14:50,169 --> 00:14:47,389 alien thing and then I realized this 403 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,179 thing that he's being not being used but 404 00:14:53,739 --> 00:14:52,160 he's being managed so what they do is 405 00:14:56,980 --> 00:14:53,749 they take people with very high ego 406 00:14:58,780 --> 00:14:56,990 levels very sure of themselves and they 407 00:15:00,850 --> 00:14:58,790 say we're your friend you're the 408 00:15:02,319 --> 00:15:00,860 smartest guy in the business we want to 409 00:15:04,449 --> 00:15:02,329 help you and of course they go along 410 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:04,459 with this and they put this this 411 00:15:10,119 --> 00:15:06,769 material out and it gets out because 412 00:15:12,189 --> 00:15:10,129 most people say Tom DeLonge has these 413 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:12,199 crazy songs about sex and stuff he's a 414 00:15:16,359 --> 00:15:15,110 wild man so he the story gets discounted 415 00:15:19,539 --> 00:15:16,369 and the story gets out because what they 416 00:15:22,109 --> 00:15:19,549 want to do in my opinion there's three 417 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:22,119 options the government can either 418 00:15:25,210 --> 00:15:23,929 disclose and they're not disclosing 419 00:15:26,530 --> 00:15:25,220 because if they were going to disclose 420 00:15:29,379 --> 00:15:26,540 they get the New York Times The 421 00:15:31,179 --> 00:15:29,389 Washington Post CNN and Fox News and 422 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:31,189 they take them underground with the 423 00:15:34,210 --> 00:15:33,049 cameras the children the bodies the 424 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:34,220 craft they give a letter from the 425 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:36,290 president United States they bribed them 426 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:37,910 whatever documents they want and it 427 00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:39,230 would be over they're not disclosing 428 00:15:42,579 --> 00:15:41,540 they're also not covering up people say 429 00:15:45,999 --> 00:15:42,589 the government is coming up and I say 430 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,009 they're not I'm from Canada and after 42 431 00:15:50,019 --> 00:15:48,079 years I've worked on this and people 432 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:50,029 will say to me because you work on the 433 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:51,769 US presidents what's happening in Canada 434 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,950 and I always say 435 00:15:57,389 --> 00:15:55,839 I have no idea I don't even know if the 436 00:15:59,490 --> 00:15:57,399 cane governments even involved in UFOs 437 00:16:02,400 --> 00:15:59,500 because if you want to cover it up 438 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:02,410 you just shut up and quit talking about 439 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:04,540 it and the story will go away that's not 440 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:06,100 what's happening United States there's 441 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:07,180 leaks 442 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:11,769 there's documents there's game who 443 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:14,170 actually at one point last week invited 444 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:16,750 me into this circle you can we'll put 445 00:16:20,819 --> 00:16:19,089 you in a phone conversation so there's 446 00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:20,829 this kind of stuff of this leaking which 447 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:23,500 means they're not covering out there 448 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:24,850 they're doing something in between 449 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:25,990 they're coming up and they're not 450 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:27,970 disclosing they're doing this middle 451 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:29,519 thing where they're doing what's called 452 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:32,350 acclimatization that apparently 453 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:35,740 think-tanks were given this problem in 454 00:16:40,439 --> 00:16:38,320 the in the 1960s and they all came to 455 00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:40,449 the same conclusion that if you release 456 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:42,760 this there will be a meltdown in society 457 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:45,160 for various reasons and therefore you 458 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:47,500 have to climate eyes the people to bring 459 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:49,690 them up to speed that we are not alone 460 00:16:53,490 --> 00:16:51,130 in the universe that there's something 461 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:53,500 else there you cannot drop this in front 462 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,420 of people before the people are really 463 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:57,279 ready for it and so they're going 464 00:17:02,819 --> 00:16:59,290 through this process and they've been 465 00:17:04,770 --> 00:17:02,829 doing it for 70 years and so I do that 466 00:17:06,419 --> 00:17:04,780 and hopefully now I can get back out of 467 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:06,429 the thumb belong and the scholarship 468 00:17:09,569 --> 00:17:07,780 thing and get back to the consciousness 469 00:17:13,289 --> 00:17:09,579 because I think that is where the answer 470 00:17:15,299 --> 00:17:13,299 is this conscious element to UFOs okay 471 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,309 when it comes to the question of the 472 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:18,400 government and our role in what they're 473 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:22,150 doing I would say that there's an 474 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:25,720 expression inside Jim Sam even who is an 475 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:28,630 ex-cia official who is actually running 476 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:32,049 the Tom DeLonge thing basically said you 477 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:35,080 get what you put out or you attract with 478 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:36,910 what you put out and this comes to this 479 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,740 idea that people will describe very 480 00:17:42,659 --> 00:17:40,960 traumatic experiences with aliens and 481 00:17:44,539 --> 00:17:42,669 stuff like that the same as a near-death 482 00:17:48,419 --> 00:17:44,549 experiences people will describe 483 00:17:49,710 --> 00:17:48,429 encountering evil aliens and evil beings 484 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:49,720 and stuff like that you'll have these 485 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:51,570 negative things in psychedelic 486 00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:53,350 experiences people will describe 487 00:17:59,880 --> 00:17:56,919 encounter in a devil so this is the 488 00:18:02,100 --> 00:17:59,890 whole concept that they you produce the 489 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,110 world that we are all together 490 00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:03,760 collectively through our sub 491 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,679 consciousness creating this world and 492 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:07,600 what happens with the government is 493 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:12,910 that we believe in himself rather than 494 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:15,730 oneness so I say the big problem in in 495 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:18,610 the world is understanding the 496 00:18:22,169 --> 00:18:20,350 difference between oneness and 497 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:22,179 separation what we're preaching in the 498 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:24,070 world is separation it's me versus you 499 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:26,710 good guy versus bad guy and I'm always 500 00:18:30,990 --> 00:18:28,690 the good guy so because I'm the good guy 501 00:18:32,610 --> 00:18:31,000 then the Chinese are the bad guys the 502 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:32,620 Arabs of the bat of the bad guys 503 00:18:37,409 --> 00:18:34,690 and then now we've translated to the 504 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:37,419 aliens of the bad guys and what Ronald 505 00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:40,240 Reagan said when he was in power and he 506 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:41,470 probably knew what he's talking about he 507 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:43,150 said how the world would unite is faced 508 00:18:47,789 --> 00:18:45,570 with a threat from an alien civilization 509 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:47,799 we'd all realize we're just God's 510 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:50,110 children and this is the oneness message 511 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:52,840 and what I say this is the other key 512 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:54,100 there's consciousness and then there's a 513 00:18:58,620 --> 00:18:55,600 oneness message and when this message 514 00:19:00,840 --> 00:18:58,630 says that there's just one world 515 00:19:02,570 --> 00:19:00,850 government so there's just one world 516 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:02,580 there's just people there's just Souls 517 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:04,750 reincarnating and that everything is 518 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:06,850 connected we're all one and there's even 519 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,530 been experiencers who have actually been 520 00:19:13,649 --> 00:19:10,960 shown these messages and the one 521 00:19:15,630 --> 00:19:13,659 particular one was a woman who taken to 522 00:19:17,549 --> 00:19:15,640 her father her father she's up behind 523 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:17,559 her father and she said to the aliens 524 00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:19,480 why are you showing me this and they 525 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,580 said just watch just watch and her 526 00:19:26,399 --> 00:19:23,200 father sitting at this kitchen table 527 00:19:28,649 --> 00:19:26,409 with this checkered cloud and a 528 00:19:30,149 --> 00:19:28,659 checkered tablecloth on there and they 529 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:30,159 takes the fork with his right hand and 530 00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:31,990 he drives it into his left hand and the 531 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:33,820 blood shooting out she's going why did 532 00:19:38,159 --> 00:19:35,080 you show me this why did you show me 533 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:38,169 this and they said Cherie this is the 534 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:40,390 lesson of oneness what you do to others 535 00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:42,490 you might as well do to yourself and 536 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:45,750 that's this whole concept that there's 537 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:49,150 that everybody is the same there are no 538 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:53,190 evil people and but way we set it up is 539 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:55,270 we have separation therefore were the 540 00:19:58,049 --> 00:19:56,860 good guys and there's the bad guys so we 541 00:19:59,610 --> 00:19:58,059 have to be protected so we have the 542 00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,620 military protects us we have the 543 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:01,120 government protect us and we have this 544 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:03,340 identity of being part of a group so 545 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:05,049 we're Americans that's one of the 546 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:08,049 reasons in the book I I detailed the 64 547 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:09,370 reasons why the government has decided 548 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:11,049 not to tell you the truth and one is 549 00:20:15,419 --> 00:20:13,390 nationalism it's the last refuge of 550 00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:15,429 scoundrels so it's like we'll have 551 00:20:18,450 --> 00:20:17,140 one-world government but the United 552 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:18,460 States America is still going to run it 553 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:20,230 it's like we're not going to are the 554 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:21,210 Americans ready to 555 00:20:25,639 --> 00:20:23,700 say we're no longer Americans were world 556 00:20:28,340 --> 00:20:25,649 people so we have this we come into 557 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:28,350 these village camps where it's us the 558 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:30,090 Americans and then all the evil people 559 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:31,919 so we spend a lot of money on military 560 00:20:36,289 --> 00:20:34,110 because we have these perceived enemies 561 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:36,299 when in fact when you meet those people 562 00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:38,730 or you're one of those people or if you 563 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:40,440 reincarnate as one of those people in 564 00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:41,880 your next life it doesn't mean you're 565 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:43,140 evil it just means you're going to 566 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:45,450 experience those other things that 567 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:47,250 everybody's the same so that's where the 568 00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:48,450 the problem with the government comes 569 00:20:52,820 --> 00:20:50,309 from that the government plays this game 570 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:52,830 that we are here to save you we are here 571 00:20:57,919 --> 00:20:55,110 to help you and people are kind of lazy 572 00:20:59,419 --> 00:20:57,929 so people really are willing to hand off 573 00:21:01,460 --> 00:20:59,429 their power to the government and they 574 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,470 buy into this fear thing there's either 575 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:03,600 in the universe there's either love or 576 00:21:11,659 --> 00:21:07,770 fear fear is the absence of love that if 577 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:11,669 you if you get rid of if you realize 578 00:21:15,409 --> 00:21:13,049 everything is love everything is one 579 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,419 then the fear goes away but they play on 580 00:21:18,350 --> 00:21:17,760 the fear that we're what they were we're 581 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:18,360 single 582 00:21:23,299 --> 00:21:21,270 we need help and so you buy into the 583 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:23,309 government protecting us that we are 584 00:21:27,529 --> 00:21:25,169 special everybody else is not special 585 00:21:30,919 --> 00:21:27,539 God has chosen our nation whatever your 586 00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:30,929 nation is and that's where you sort of 587 00:21:35,899 --> 00:21:33,870 cycle down where if you can say there's 588 00:21:38,419 --> 00:21:35,909 evil aliens which is what Tom DeLonge 589 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:38,429 was going to pilot which is the ultimate 590 00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:40,770 false flag there's Verner von braun said 591 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:45,390 from 1974 to 1977 to his assistant that 592 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:47,010 the government would use a number of 593 00:21:51,529 --> 00:21:48,690 different ways first they would say that 594 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:51,539 there's the russians you've got to be 595 00:21:55,460 --> 00:21:53,250 protect against the russians then it 596 00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:55,470 would be a straights then it would be 597 00:22:00,620 --> 00:21:57,960 terrorists and the final and the mult 598 00:22:03,139 --> 00:22:00,630 altima tall's flag would be evil aliens 599 00:22:04,639 --> 00:22:03,149 alien invasion that we've got to take on 600 00:22:06,529 --> 00:22:04,649 these aliens they're evil we have to 601 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:06,539 kill them and people will buy into that 602 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:09,330 the same as they do in terms of movies 603 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:12,210 you have this adversarial thing that 604 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:14,250 what we found in movies is that people 605 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:16,049 don't want to do alien movies if it has 606 00:22:20,029 --> 00:22:17,730 a good message because it doesn't have 607 00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:20,039 that adversarial me versus them you 608 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,720 always have to have that fight thing and 609 00:22:28,399 --> 00:22:23,039 that's what happens with the government 610 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:28,409 it feeds into our wanting to be sort of 611 00:22:31,940 --> 00:22:30,330 separate from everybody else believing 612 00:22:33,230 --> 00:22:31,950 we're real that the government is going 613 00:22:36,019 --> 00:22:33,240 to protect us 614 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:36,029 and in fact it's basically all illusion 615 00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:37,890 everything is one and that whatever 616 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:40,500 whoever the enemy what I say whoever the 617 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,590 enemy you think is be prepared because 618 00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,720 your next lifetime that's probably what 619 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:47,039 you're going to be and then you're going 620 00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:49,230 to learn empathy and you're also going 621 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:51,390 to show the world how you can handle the 622 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,980 problem being on that side of the thing 623 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:54,240 everything is experienced in the 624 00:22:57,889 --> 00:22:55,770 universe everything is learning the 625 00:23:00,320 --> 00:22:57,899 universe is just growing it's learning 626 00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,330 and everything is connected everything 627 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:01,919 is one especially if you look at people 628 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:03,870 who do psychedelic drugs they'll say 629 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,480 immediately number one thing happens the 630 00:23:10,580 --> 00:23:08,640 ego is crushed and they suddenly realize 631 00:23:12,289 --> 00:23:10,590 everything is alive and everything's 632 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:12,299 connected and that's the message the 633 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:14,340 aliens are trying to get across 54% of 634 00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,710 all experiences will say they were 635 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,440 talked to about oneness and love they 636 00:23:24,289 --> 00:23:21,960 were talked about reincarnation and what 637 00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:24,299 I would say in the end based upon what 638 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:26,549 I've done in the consciousness realm 639 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:29,730 talking to experiences is that the UFO 640 00:23:35,659 --> 00:23:33,120 phenomenon I will bet the farm the UFO 641 00:23:37,370 --> 00:23:35,669 farm is going to be a lot less physical 642 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:37,380 and people think it is and it's going to 643 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:40,110 be a lot more spiritual however you want 644 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:42,390 to talk about it than it is and the way 645 00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:45,210 we have it in the world today is because 646 00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,880 science rules the world today it is the 647 00:23:54,169 --> 00:23:49,919 god it's the priest of the of the modern 648 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:54,179 world everybody in the UFO community 649 00:23:59,690 --> 00:23:56,970 figures like were the Rodney Dangerfield 650 00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,700 of science nobody gives us any respect 651 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:02,159 and so because you feel embarrassed 652 00:24:06,139 --> 00:24:04,230 above being a researcher what you want 653 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:06,149 to do is you want to appease the priest 654 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:08,610 class the priest class is a scientist so 655 00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:10,770 we want to be scientific we want to be 656 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:14,039 able to and be skeptical we want to 657 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,960 analyze we want to weigh we want to 658 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:18,720 touch feel whatever and unless you can 659 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:22,710 reproduce it or show evidence of solid 660 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,049 stuff we're not going to believe and 661 00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:28,080 that's exactly why for 70 years we've 662 00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:29,640 been running around in a circle and you 663 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:31,350 ask people what have you discovered 664 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:33,330 they'll say oh we really don't know 665 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:34,380 what's going on because they're looking 666 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:37,049 at it is a physical phenomena if you get 667 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,029 away from the physical phenomena and you 668 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:41,039 particularly most importantly what I say 669 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:43,110 the UFO community has to do is they've 670 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:45,000 got to get away from watching lights in 671 00:24:50,009 --> 00:24:47,080 the sky because you can count them 672 00:24:51,330 --> 00:24:50,019 so the end of the world how many green 673 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:51,340 ones there are how many red ones there 674 00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:53,140 are any fast ones and slow ones you're 675 00:24:56,610 --> 00:24:54,640 never going to learn anything it's not 676 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:56,620 until you talk to what are called the 677 00:25:00,299 --> 00:24:58,330 experiences the people who are 678 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:00,309 interacting with the aliens because the 679 00:25:05,490 --> 00:25:02,769 aliens are whoever the the entities are 680 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:05,500 because they are definitely interacting 681 00:25:09,509 --> 00:25:08,260 with people and they're you're giving 682 00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:09,519 people material they're giving people 683 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:12,100 answers and unless we talk to the 684 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:13,690 experiencers we aren't going anywhere 685 00:25:18,509 --> 00:25:16,330 and if you look at the at the stats and 686 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:18,519 this was done there's a big survey done 687 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:20,830 by the free foundation which are started 688 00:25:25,049 --> 00:25:23,260 by Edgar Mitchell and B they have 689 00:25:27,810 --> 00:25:25,059 interviewed four thousand experiences 690 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:27,820 and you see all sorts of very direct 691 00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,470 patterns that when you talk to them 692 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:31,360 they're saying all the same thing 693 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:34,630 forty-two percent of all experiences say 694 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:38,320 that they have mathematical technical or 695 00:25:42,570 --> 00:25:40,720 scientific material in their head that 696 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:42,580 they did not learn in school they have 697 00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:44,200 been given stuff in their head they've 698 00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:46,600 been given downloads 40 percent of all 699 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:49,059 experiences say at one point during 700 00:25:53,129 --> 00:25:51,190 their experience they knew the answer to 701 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:53,139 everything in the universe which means 702 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:55,450 they at some point had been tapped into 703 00:25:59,519 --> 00:25:57,399 the Higher Self whatever you want to 704 00:26:00,840 --> 00:25:59,529 call it the Akashic field and then it 705 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:00,850 was taken away from them as they come 706 00:26:06,389 --> 00:26:02,980 back into the physical it's taken away 707 00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:06,399 from them 13% of all experiences will 708 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,740 say they have flown the craft they have 709 00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:11,200 been allowed to fly the craft so I say 710 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:13,029 when it comes to evil aliens people will 711 00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:15,010 say all these evil aliens I said well if 712 00:26:18,450 --> 00:26:16,809 you believe there's evil aliens listen 713 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:18,460 to this if you're a woman in Saudi 714 00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:20,529 Arabia it is illegal for you to drive a 715 00:26:24,990 --> 00:26:22,840 car but if you get abducted as a woman 716 00:26:27,690 --> 00:26:25,000 from Saudi Arabia they will let you fly 717 00:26:29,490 --> 00:26:27,700 the ship no insurance no license nothing 718 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:29,500 they'll just let you fly the ship so the 719 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:31,210 thing is when you look at these stats I 720 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:33,929 say it's critically important to look at 721 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:36,760 why are these high numbers 37% of all 722 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:38,590 experiences have had near-death 723 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:41,080 experiences so you have these things and 724 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:42,340 people will say well I'm not gonna 725 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:44,529 listen to experiencers because they just 726 00:26:48,779 --> 00:26:45,610 sort of believe they're having these 727 00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:48,789 experiences and I'll say yes it's true 728 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:51,580 it's all belief but you believe you're a 729 00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:53,260 skeptic you believe you're a scientist 730 00:26:58,649 --> 00:26:56,380 you believe the world is flat around you 731 00:27:00,240 --> 00:26:58,659 believe that it's solid it's all belief 732 00:27:00,580 --> 00:27:00,250 I will agree it's all belief but when 733 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,590 you get 734 00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:02,720 this number of people who are giving 735 00:27:06,669 --> 00:27:04,700 these very definite numbers and very 736 00:27:07,299 --> 00:27:06,679 definite directions to where we should 737 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:07,309 be going 738 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:10,100 is it incumbent on us to talk to these 739 00:27:13,630 --> 00:27:12,169 people and to question them and to find 740 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:13,640 out if they're telling the truth I don't 741 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:15,890 mind if you are skeptical going in there 742 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:17,690 but to not talk to these people and 743 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:18,890 that's where having a UFO community 744 00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:20,350 nobody will even talk to these people 745 00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:22,460 because he can't measure it you can't 746 00:27:26,649 --> 00:27:24,860 you know it's not they don't see it as 747 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:26,659 scientific and so when you look at 748 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,700 particularly I'm still trying to 749 00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:30,559 convince the free society they've gone 750 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:32,929 with a second survey to look at the 751 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:35,260 people who have had the downloads and 752 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:38,480 what kind of physics downloads and if 753 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:40,190 the person has any physics background or 754 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,750 whatever and they're collecting all this 755 00:27:45,549 --> 00:27:43,279 material and it doing the long 756 00:27:47,529 --> 00:27:45,559 interviews of these people but I said 757 00:27:50,409 --> 00:27:47,539 you've got to look at the the key one is 758 00:27:53,049 --> 00:27:50,419 the flying of the ship because I when I 759 00:27:56,639 --> 00:27:53,059 first did my conscious comic conscious 760 00:28:00,010 --> 00:27:56,649 download I gave up the the documents and 761 00:28:02,139 --> 00:28:00,020 I went to lecturing on consciousness the 762 00:28:05,169 --> 00:28:02,149 first consciousness lecture I gave was 763 00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:05,179 in 2013 in Phoenix Arizona at the end of 764 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:06,980 the lecture the woman who runs the 765 00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:09,830 Phoenix MUFON group said to me are you 766 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:12,580 still going to talk to Pam and I thought 767 00:28:17,710 --> 00:28:15,529 well I'd like to agreed to talk I said 768 00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:17,720 okay and I figured maybe I agreed to 769 00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:18,950 talk this woman or I don't know what's 770 00:28:23,260 --> 00:28:20,840 going on so I was out a house on the 771 00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:23,270 Monday staying there and she said Pam's 772 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:24,409 going to come to the house and you can 773 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:26,510 talk her so Pam comes to the door she's 774 00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:31,850 in her 70s with her partner and they 775 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:33,500 come in and she says what did Stacy tell 776 00:28:36,909 --> 00:28:35,570 you about me and I said I don't know I'm 777 00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:36,919 just supposed to talk to you that's good 778 00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:38,630 she sits down and she starts talking 779 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:40,820 about remote viewing and she's had these 780 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:43,250 experiences or whatever and then she 781 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:45,710 said and I was flying the ship last 782 00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:49,190 night and I say you were what and she 783 00:28:53,019 --> 00:28:51,470 said I was flying the ship I said 784 00:28:54,610 --> 00:28:53,029 they'll let you fly the flying saucer 785 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:54,620 and she said yeah I've flown three 786 00:28:58,899 --> 00:28:56,510 different models and at that point I 787 00:29:01,149 --> 00:28:58,909 never heard this in 37 years I never 788 00:29:03,789 --> 00:29:01,159 just I thought she was totally nuts and 789 00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:03,799 so that I said well how do you fly a 790 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:06,140 flying saucer and she says well you do 791 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:08,690 it with your mind and as soon as I heard 792 00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:10,610 that I realized why they had set me have 793 00:29:14,299 --> 00:29:12,470 to talk to this woman and she said and 794 00:29:16,629 --> 00:29:14,309 now I've got 36 Experion 795 00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:16,639 and I've got about six of them on tape 796 00:29:21,139 --> 00:29:19,559 describing in detail I say okay starts 797 00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:21,149 in the word start from the beginning 798 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,979 exactly how you fly a ship what you do 799 00:29:28,489 --> 00:29:24,960 first second everybody says the same 800 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:28,499 thing there is no steering wheel you put 801 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,440 your hand on a pad you become one with 802 00:29:36,259 --> 00:29:34,320 the ship the ship is alive you're alive 803 00:29:38,659 --> 00:29:36,269 you become and you take your hand off 804 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:38,669 and then wherever you think you want to 805 00:29:42,589 --> 00:29:40,769 go you can go you can just move the ship 806 00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:42,599 with your mind and that's how it's done 807 00:29:47,659 --> 00:29:44,039 and that would be one of the reasons why 808 00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:47,669 the government has not released what 809 00:29:51,619 --> 00:29:49,320 they know because I can pretty well 810 00:29:53,089 --> 00:29:51,629 guarantee you they do not understand 811 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,099 this very well because when you hear the 812 00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:55,200 people actually describe this it's very 813 00:30:00,379 --> 00:29:57,899 very complex it's very you can see that 814 00:30:02,419 --> 00:30:00,389 they're like hundreds of thousands of 815 00:30:05,419 --> 00:30:02,429 years ahead of us in terms of the ship 816 00:30:07,609 --> 00:30:05,429 changing size and shape and all this 817 00:30:09,499 --> 00:30:07,619 kind of stuff so that's where it sort of 818 00:30:11,209 --> 00:30:09,509 reinforced the fact that consciousness 819 00:30:13,399 --> 00:30:11,219 is the key to this whole thing that 820 00:30:15,469 --> 00:30:13,409 aliens are telepathic and that the ship 821 00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:15,479 is alive and that you interact with the 822 00:30:19,219 --> 00:30:17,070 ship and you become one with the ship is 823 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:19,229 oneness concept and that's how they get 824 00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:23,129 here in fact part of my download was two 825 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:25,559 people one was dr. Eric Walker at Penn 826 00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:27,690 State University president who had 14 827 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,169 honorary Doctorate degrees PhD in 828 00:30:36,499 --> 00:30:34,080 engineering engineering studies for 829 00:30:38,779 --> 00:30:36,509 Eisenhower and when we asked him about 830 00:30:40,969 --> 00:30:38,789 the control group we said it was I from 831 00:30:43,099 --> 00:30:40,979 Great Britain an Iranian guy from Great 832 00:30:45,259 --> 00:30:43,109 Britain was interviewing him he said dr. 833 00:30:48,709 --> 00:30:45,269 Walker what about the control group is 834 00:30:51,229 --> 00:30:48,719 it still just 12 people or is it 835 00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:51,239 international is it just American and he 836 00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:53,429 said let me ask you a question when you 837 00:30:58,009 --> 00:30:56,070 know by ESP and the guy in Great Britain 838 00:30:59,719 --> 00:30:58,019 went well I didn't have an answer 839 00:31:02,529 --> 00:30:59,729 blocker answered his own question said 840 00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:02,539 look unless you understand about ESP and 841 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:05,969 how it works you will not be taken in by 842 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,190 the control group very few people 843 00:31:11,869 --> 00:31:10,080 understood it very people understand it 844 00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:11,879 I had no idea was talking about because 845 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:13,349 it didn't even relate to the question 846 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:17,609 two years later 1993 Ben rich who's head 847 00:31:20,719 --> 00:31:18,570 of Lockheed skunkworks 848 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:20,729 is giving a lecture to the engineering 849 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,089 alumni at UCLA the last slide he shows 850 00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:26,880 is a flying saucer and 851 00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:28,590 he says we now is the technology to take 852 00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:31,500 e.t home we've discovered the mistaken 853 00:31:35,629 --> 00:31:33,720 equation it's not going to take a 854 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:35,639 lifetime to do but it's going to take an 855 00:31:39,259 --> 00:31:37,350 act of God to get it out of Congress 856 00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:39,269 because it's so deep black one of the 857 00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:40,830 people in the audience was John aartsen 858 00:31:46,009 --> 00:31:43,259 the present international director of me 859 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:46,019 fine Jan Hudson is an experienced here 860 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:47,730 he had an experience in his backyard 861 00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,669 with his brother at nine years old the 862 00:31:55,249 --> 00:31:52,320 thing was about 30 feet away in his 863 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,259 backyard 6:30 Saturday morning he became 864 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:57,600 obsessed with building a flying saucer 865 00:32:02,090 --> 00:31:59,490 he became an electrical engineer so he 866 00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,100 could do this they became director of 867 00:32:06,289 --> 00:32:04,799 MUFON he's in the audience he's sitting 868 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:06,299 with another researcher and he looks 869 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,830 over at this Keller guy who was with him 870 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,559 he said did you hear what he said I got 871 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:12,720 the technology and he's like this is my 872 00:32:18,379 --> 00:32:16,350 lifelong dream my whole life I wanted to 873 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:18,389 know this whole thing so as Ben rich is 874 00:32:22,249 --> 00:32:20,250 leaving the building he figures this is 875 00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:22,259 my chance he goes running after Ben as 876 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:24,360 he's going out the door he said Ben I've 877 00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:25,950 been obsessed with flying saucers my 878 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:28,679 whole life I need to know how do they 879 00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:31,230 get here how does it work and then 880 00:32:35,419 --> 00:32:33,029 turned and been rich looks around he 881 00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:35,429 said he asked a question what do you 882 00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:38,700 know about ESP and Jan said I didn't 883 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:41,480 expect a question so he said it means 884 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:43,289 everything in time and space is 885 00:32:47,749 --> 00:32:45,570 connected they said that's how it works 886 00:32:49,639 --> 00:32:47,759 yes in his car and drives away and so 887 00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:49,649 that's the whole thing it's this oneness 888 00:32:53,149 --> 00:32:51,179 thing which I say is so important 889 00:32:55,159 --> 00:32:53,159 because if you believe that we're 890 00:32:58,249 --> 00:32:55,169 physical part random physical particles 891 00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:58,259 in time and space you're never going to 892 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:00,120 get off this planet because you can't 893 00:33:04,129 --> 00:33:02,370 fly that distance you can't carry that 894 00:33:06,499 --> 00:33:04,139 amount of food and that's the scientific 895 00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:06,509 argument is they can't get here from 896 00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:08,820 there the distances are too big but if 897 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:10,769 you understand that one concept of 898 00:33:14,779 --> 00:33:12,870 oneness entangled particles all the 899 00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:14,789 quantum physics thing that there may not 900 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,159 be time in space that everything is one 901 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,200 everything is connected and if you make 902 00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:21,120 this connection like entangled particles 903 00:33:24,619 --> 00:33:22,950 where if you if you change the spin of 904 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,629 this particle the entangled particle on 905 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:25,919 the other side of the universe will 906 00:33:30,259 --> 00:33:28,409 instantly change that may be how it 907 00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:30,269 works that if you understand 908 00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:32,279 everything's one then you simply can 909 00:33:37,389 --> 00:33:35,070 change in your mind the location and you 910 00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:37,399 will move through time and space 911 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:40,640 instantaneously so that's why I say 912 00:33:44,110 --> 00:33:42,410 oneness concept is how they get here 913 00:33:45,670 --> 00:33:44,120 they understand oneness that there is no 914 00:33:48,370 --> 00:33:45,680 time in space everything is connected in 915 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:48,380 time in space which discounts the evil 916 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:50,210 alien thing if you understand that 917 00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:52,010 everything is one everything is 918 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:54,590 connected then you can't come here and 919 00:33:59,620 --> 00:33:57,080 suddenly say separation it's me versus 920 00:34:02,050 --> 00:33:59,630 you good aliens bad aliens that's why I 921 00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:02,060 really doubt that there's evil aliens 922 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:03,230 because that's how they get here 923 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:05,210 understanding this concept of oneness 924 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:08,510 when it comes to vibration and how that 925 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,950 fits into the whole scenario the way I 926 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:12,800 look at it is through a lot of the 927 00:34:15,850 --> 00:34:14,570 channeling that people do channeling and 928 00:34:16,870 --> 00:34:15,860 ask the questions and that's what 929 00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:16,880 they'll describe everything is a 930 00:34:22,030 --> 00:34:19,460 vibration that there really is no 931 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:22,040 physical world that the way I understand 932 00:34:27,730 --> 00:34:25,240 it is consciousness is still 933 00:34:30,370 --> 00:34:27,740 consciousness is one and then when 934 00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:30,380 conscious starts to vibrate or is one of 935 00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:33,230 the people who got download said if it 936 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,000 vibrates is illusion so then the 937 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,280 physical world at various levels but I 938 00:34:41,889 --> 00:34:39,280 don't look at levels because once you 939 00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:41,899 create nouns rather than verts it's oh 940 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,179 it's a verb process it's a moving 941 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:45,919 process but what we do because we 942 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:47,330 believe in separations we want to have 943 00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:49,550 levels so we say there's nine levels of 944 00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:51,950 the universe there's multi dimensions 945 00:34:56,530 --> 00:34:54,830 and we sort of break it in two because 946 00:34:58,210 --> 00:34:56,540 we're going to understand levels and 947 00:34:59,860 --> 00:34:58,220 stuff like that in terms of separate but 948 00:35:03,370 --> 00:34:59,870 what I would say it's more like water 949 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:03,380 it's like if you if you go into the 950 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:04,970 water the closer year to the top of the 951 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,650 water the more light there is the 952 00:35:11,410 --> 00:35:08,000 clearer you can see so it's all 953 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,420 vibration and there is a I think a law 954 00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:13,760 that they're at a higher vibration where 955 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:15,860 the lower vibration and for example 956 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:18,050 you'll have the stories of the alien 957 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:20,150 hybrids where these children and the 958 00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:21,680 children will only interact with the 959 00:35:25,780 --> 00:35:23,750 parents on one occasion they'll have the 960 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:25,790 child that take the child they bring it 961 00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:27,710 back one time and the parent has to hold 962 00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:29,120 the child you've heard this bonding 963 00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:30,950 story and it's to bond with the child 964 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:32,300 and that is the last time they will see 965 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,910 the child the child is gone and I would 966 00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:36,320 think that is an indication of this 967 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:38,180 vibration thing that that child cannot 968 00:35:42,460 --> 00:35:39,980 live on this world because they're on a 969 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,470 different vibrational frequency so they 970 00:35:45,550 --> 00:35:44,240 are able to come into our frequency so 971 00:35:47,950 --> 00:35:45,560 they can come into the physical world 972 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:47,960 take on a physical form and then they 973 00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:49,910 can move back into their higher 974 00:35:54,590 --> 00:35:52,580 vibration almost like the thing where 975 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:54,600 people will talk about 976 00:35:59,099 --> 00:35:57,250 the fact that it's a physical phenomena 977 00:36:02,940 --> 00:35:59,109 and I say if you look at the free survey 978 00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:02,950 and you look at the number one reported 979 00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:06,280 alien it is not an alien it is a ball of 980 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:09,640 light it is a third type form that is 981 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:11,470 the number one reported experience the 982 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:12,760 greys is number three 983 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:14,920 number two is a humanoid type thing so 984 00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:17,350 my question then is and people will 985 00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:19,000 describe this it's a ball of light and 986 00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:21,160 it changes into an alien and then it 987 00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:22,780 goes back to a ball of light so my 988 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:24,369 question is does a ball of light get up 989 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:26,260 in the morning I have toast bacon eggs 990 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:28,780 and coffee and no it's they can move 991 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:30,430 into the physical world they can move 992 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:31,600 back out so they can move their 993 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:33,430 vibration down to meet us but they can't 994 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:36,850 really we can't live in their vibration 995 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:38,500 and we have to so what they're doing is 996 00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:39,730 they're moving our vibration and 997 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:42,580 everything is vibration and it'd be the 998 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:47,970 same thing as psychic experiences or 999 00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:50,410 remote viewing or any of these type of 1000 00:36:54,990 --> 00:36:52,840 things everybody has the ability to do 1001 00:36:57,690 --> 00:36:55,000 it and what you're able to if you're 1002 00:36:59,370 --> 00:36:57,700 able to move into that change your 1003 00:37:01,500 --> 00:36:59,380 frequency of your body through whatever 1004 00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:01,510 technique you're using you're able to 1005 00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:04,150 access everybody's it's there for 1006 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:05,500 everybody all the information is there 1007 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,390 in the Akashic field or whatever it's a 1008 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:09,280 matter of accessing that you don't have 1009 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:10,810 any knowledge to access you're still 1010 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:12,850 your beliefs keep you in this physical 1011 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:15,070 world and the more you understand about 1012 00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:18,609 the techniques and stuff you can break 1013 00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:19,900 out of this you can increase your 1014 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:21,580 vibration by doing certain things and 1015 00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:24,010 you can move up in fact one of the 1016 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:26,380 stories is out now is this story the 1017 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:29,650 portal thing that that there's 1018 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:31,630 supposedly the government is trying to 1019 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:33,100 get out the story that there is a portal 1020 00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:35,890 there are a number of portals and the 1021 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:38,200 main guys leaking his name is dr. Ronald 1022 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:41,380 Pandolfi who's run the CIA UFO desk 1023 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:44,170 since 1983 he and his wife are putting 1024 00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:46,390 this out and for some reason they want 1025 00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:49,480 us to believe there's a portal now when 1026 00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:50,980 I heard first heard that up it's crazy 1027 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:53,230 stuff I mean I have liked you a whole 1028 00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:55,300 tomato I didn't crazy is you have 1029 00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:56,920 science fiction stuff been making this 1030 00:38:00,510 --> 00:37:58,510 stuff up they pulled it out of science 1031 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:00,520 fiction now I talked to enough enough 1032 00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:03,010 people who basically said yes this 1033 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:04,840 portal story is true that there is this 1034 00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:07,330 portal and I've got very close friend 1035 00:38:09,790 --> 00:38:07,820 Paula 1036 00:38:12,910 --> 00:38:09,800 I don't know whether you've interviewed 1037 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:12,920 her but Paula Harris actually tells the 1038 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:14,510 story about going through a portal in 1039 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,170 nineteen 2014-2015 and when I first 1040 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:20,960 heard her tell the story I said what and 1041 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,430 she told me the story but it was this 1042 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:25,520 vibrational story is the fact that there 1043 00:38:29,470 --> 00:38:27,350 was this guy from South America who was 1044 00:38:32,290 --> 00:38:29,480 in charge and Terrell was that with the 1045 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,300 being and they went to Mount Shasta and 1046 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:34,960 they fasted for two days and they 1047 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:38,510 meditated for two days and this is all 1048 00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:40,250 stuff to raise your vibration that you 1049 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:42,680 can't do it and not eat meat and all 1050 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:44,210 this kind of stuff so they have all 1051 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:45,470 these things which are supposedly 1052 00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:47,810 raising your vibration and then when the 1053 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:48,590 time comes 1054 00:38:54,820 --> 00:38:51,170 Paula tells me the story that he there 1055 00:38:58,090 --> 00:38:54,830 did they say a UFO and then this Ricardo 1056 00:39:01,390 --> 00:38:58,100 comes up to her and says aunt Arella 1057 00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:01,400 here are you ready for this and she said 1058 00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:02,840 she just like too freaked out she like 1059 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Oh God 1060 00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:05,210 I don't know and she's like you know 1061 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:06,980 what's going to happen so they got up 1062 00:39:10,210 --> 00:39:08,690 and they go into this forest they pick 1063 00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:10,220 seven people that are going to go 1064 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,260 through this portal type thing and they 1065 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:14,000 call it a portal see I don't really know 1066 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:15,740 what a portal is so she said they were 1067 00:39:20,110 --> 00:39:17,690 there and they the ground look there's 1068 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:20,120 sparkles on the ground and then this fog 1069 00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:21,650 starts coming out of the ground and she 1070 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:23,120 had to hold hands there's three women 1071 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:25,670 and they had to hold hands and Ricardo 1072 00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:27,800 says you do not let go of the person's 1073 00:39:32,350 --> 00:39:29,660 hand beside you until you're through 1074 00:39:34,750 --> 00:39:32,360 this this foggy mist thing that's coming 1075 00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:34,760 out so they go and she said when they 1076 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:36,830 got through this mist that is coming off 1077 00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:38,900 the ground she said it was a scariest 1078 00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:40,070 moment of her life when she had to let 1079 00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:41,660 go of these woman's hand and she said 1080 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:44,360 when she did suddenly this 9-foot tall 1081 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:46,610 alien is there and he's talking in this 1082 00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:48,770 voice that she couldn't understand and 1083 00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:50,780 all she could remember is one thing 1084 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:53,990 where he said thank you and that's the 1085 00:39:57,580 --> 00:39:55,310 only she remembered and then the next 1086 00:39:58,930 --> 00:39:57,590 year she goes through this thing again 1087 00:40:01,600 --> 00:39:58,940 and they're describing it as a portal 1088 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:01,610 now what the CIA is describing is a 1089 00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:06,110 portal where um on the other side they 1090 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,400 could actually call it a wishing well 1091 00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:08,720 that when you get on the other side you 1092 00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:10,790 can actually manifest but again it has 1093 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:14,240 this idea of it being in a sort of a 1094 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:16,250 different dimension and you can you can 1095 00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:18,050 move back and through force through this 1096 00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:20,780 thing but I always say 1097 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:24,230 it's the vibration is the key to 1098 00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:26,210 everything everything vibrates and so 1099 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:27,980 they're just on a different vibration or 1100 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:30,050 they're on a different frequency that 1101 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:32,450 you would even get for for example with 1102 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:35,390 learning how to do lucid dreaming or 1103 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:37,460 these kind of things because they will 1104 00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:38,870 describe the same sort of thing where 1105 00:40:43,870 --> 00:40:41,840 you enter this world where you can 1106 00:40:45,550 --> 00:40:43,880 actually manifest things you can ask 1107 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:45,560 questions and get answers and stuff like 1108 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,140 that and a lot of people will report to 1109 00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:50,960 me they'll say well I was never abducted 1110 00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:53,600 but I had dreams about them all the time 1111 00:40:59,700 --> 00:40:56,870 and one of the channeling sessions the 1112 00:41:02,890 --> 00:40:59,710 alien said we come to you in your dreams 1113 00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:02,900 because now you're in our world and 1114 00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:04,190 that's the thing you're in this 1115 00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:05,630 different vibrational you move to a 1116 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:08,390 different state of mind into this sort 1117 00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:10,490 of dream world and then you're in more 1118 00:41:14,350 --> 00:41:11,780 in their world so they're in this dream 1119 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:14,360 world moving through but it's more it's 1120 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:17,270 not a level thing it's more like a thing 1121 00:41:21,010 --> 00:41:19,310 with water that that you're going to 1122 00:41:22,990 --> 00:41:21,020 into deeper water or you're going closer 1123 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:23,000 to the light almost like the idea of 1124 00:41:26,830 --> 00:41:24,530 light because I the next book I'm going 1125 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,840 to do is these these confusions that we 1126 00:41:30,850 --> 00:41:28,880 get in life and one of them is the thing 1127 00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:30,860 about light and darkness 1128 00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:33,350 so people believe the separation thing 1129 00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:34,580 there's light and there's darkness and 1130 00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:36,830 there isn't there's just light the 1131 00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:38,360 farther you get away from the light the 1132 00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:40,340 darker it gets but there is no light 1133 00:41:44,890 --> 00:41:43,160 light or no there is no dark darkness is 1134 00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:44,900 not a thing onto itself it's just the 1135 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,030 absence of light there is only light and 1136 00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:49,280 the farther you get away the less light 1137 00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:51,080 there is so it's these kind of things 1138 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:53,750 where it's all one and we sort of we 1139 00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:56,210 sort of try to divide it into little 1140 00:41:59,470 --> 00:41:57,950 pieces because in this world we can sort 1141 00:42:01,420 --> 00:41:59,480 of understand it and then we come to 1142 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:01,430 this random idea that it's just random 1143 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:03,410 particles where it's it's it's all 1144 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:05,570 random it's accidental it's meaningless 1145 00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,760 we're just banging into each other but 1146 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:09,200 it doesn't explain anything that happens 1147 00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:10,610 in ufology doesn't explain it as a 1148 00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,830 mental stuff it doesn't explain what the 1149 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:15,440 aliens are doing it's just it doesn't go 1150 00:42:19,810 --> 00:42:16,910 anywhere so you have to get into this 1151 00:42:21,970 --> 00:42:19,820 idea of the the consciousness of the 1152 00:42:23,830 --> 00:42:21,980 vibration particularly that everything 1153 00:42:26,050 --> 00:42:23,840 is is a is a wave everything is 1154 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:26,060 vibration even quantum physics you have 1155 00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:28,370 this non-local wave when there's an 1156 00:42:31,930 --> 00:42:30,110 observer the non-local wave breaks down 1157 00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:31,940 and the particle takes a position in 1158 00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:32,840 time and space 1159 00:42:37,570 --> 00:42:35,180 and but everything is waves it's all 1160 00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,580 vibration and when people start to 1161 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:39,680 understand that and actually believe you 1162 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:41,090 know actually use it rather than just 1163 00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:43,790 believe it as being a concept then you 1164 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:45,590 can understand understanding what 1165 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:46,370 they're doing because they're not doing 1166 00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:48,530 anything different they're not mad it's 1167 00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:49,670 not really magic 1168 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,200 it's just they're doing things that we 1169 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:52,880 don't understand that we just don't have 1170 00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:54,350 the understanding we don't know how to 1171 00:42:58,930 --> 00:42:56,870 move into their world and we don't we 1172 00:43:00,640 --> 00:42:58,940 don't have the knowledge if we have the 1173 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,650 knowledge there would be no magic it's 1174 00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:02,720 almost like 500 years ago if someone saw 1175 00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:04,580 an airplane Newton's magic it's not it's 1176 00:43:08,650 --> 00:43:06,830 just you don't know how that you're not 1177 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:08,660 prepared for that technology just still 1178 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:11,090 have the background so we learn on 1179 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:13,250 consciousness is basic everything 1180 00:43:17,290 --> 00:43:15,740 vibrates and you get into that world we 1181 00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:17,300 start to understand what's going on and 1182 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:19,580 it's not as as magical as people think 1183 00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:21,050 it is for example give you another 1184 00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:23,150 example a lot of people when they talk 1185 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:24,680 about when they're abducted they'll say 1186 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:26,390 oh they took me through the wall and 1187 00:43:30,610 --> 00:43:27,890 because we believe in this physical 1188 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:30,620 errors you go that's absolutely crazy I 1189 00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:32,240 mean there's no way you went to the wall 1190 00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:33,950 or the wind or Lambert but if you 1191 00:43:42,730 --> 00:43:38,620 understand the fact that used to be 1192 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:42,740 99.999 13 times percent of the atom is 1193 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:45,710 space then it's all space but now the 1194 00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:47,360 figure is actually because all the 1195 00:43:50,590 --> 00:43:48,830 subatomic particles are all space 1196 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:50,600 they're not all packed together in one 1197 00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:52,610 solid thing it's now 10 to the 1198 00:43:59,980 --> 00:43:56,960 fifty-third pieces of space for every 1199 00:44:02,380 --> 00:43:59,990 piece of we think is matter and to give 1200 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:02,390 you an idea how big that is there are 10 1201 00:44:06,850 --> 00:44:05,210 to the 52nd acres in the Milky Way which 1202 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:06,860 would mean that one acre in the milky 1203 00:44:11,290 --> 00:44:09,170 way's is matter the rest is all space 1204 00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:11,300 like it's literally all space so if you 1205 00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:13,070 if you come to that understanding same 1206 00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:14,420 as frequency you start to understand 1207 00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:16,190 frequency if you understand the fact 1208 00:44:22,060 --> 00:44:19,190 that everything is space how hard it is 1209 00:44:24,070 --> 00:44:22,070 for an alien to take a person who's all 1210 00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:24,080 space and put them through a wall that's 1211 00:44:28,780 --> 00:44:26,360 all space it's just you've got to do the 1212 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:28,790 vibration thing that holds the matter 1213 00:44:32,740 --> 00:44:30,710 together and if you can break those 1214 00:44:34,540 --> 00:44:32,750 bonds or whatever they're doing you can 1215 00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:34,550 put the the person through the wall with 1216 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:35,870 no problem because it's all just space 1217 00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,090 and we just make assumption that I'm 1218 00:44:42,310 --> 00:44:39,920 Solow the wall solid so you can't go 1219 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,320 through and so these misunderstandings 1220 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:44,000 and that's my next book is to look at 1221 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:45,280 the various misunderstanding 1222 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:48,160 that we have that serve really throw us 1223 00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:49,510 off it's not that we're doing the wrong 1224 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:51,160 thing it's just we we make a bunch of 1225 00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:53,890 assumptions that aren't true when it 1226 00:45:03,120 --> 00:44:58,980 comes to the question of the conscious 1227 00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:03,130 elevation of this whole process the way 1228 00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:06,310 I look at things is that people in 1229 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:09,580 America especially in the West say in 1230 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:12,010 the West we want everything and we want 1231 00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:12,640 it yesterday 1232 00:45:19,530 --> 00:45:15,790 I have great compassion because the way 1233 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:19,540 I came through my experience I take 1234 00:45:23,850 --> 00:45:21,370 credit for nothing I did not want to see 1235 00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:23,860 that UFO it was only because it was 1236 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:26,380 filmed a second time and put on TV that 1237 00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:29,230 I went out there when I had my download 1238 00:45:32,190 --> 00:45:30,760 experience I did not want to be in that 1239 00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:32,200 room I had no intention of being in that 1240 00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:34,300 room so I got dragged kicking and 1241 00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:35,980 screaming even the music thing I tell 1242 00:45:39,390 --> 00:45:37,240 the story about the music thing when I 1243 00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:39,400 got involved with the music thing I'm a 1244 00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:41,080 musical idiot I don't play any musical 1245 00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:42,700 instruments I don't listen to music and 1246 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:46,140 when I was contacted by this prominent 1247 00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:49,060 experiencer Chris Pluto and he said the 1248 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:51,400 shining lady that is involved she's 1249 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:53,650 above the aliens this lady said to 1250 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,510 contact grant and tell him that the 1251 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:57,760 message is in the music I thought well 1252 00:46:01,320 --> 00:45:59,410 you're wasting time because me I'm not 1253 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:01,330 in the music and it turned out that Neil 1254 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:04,390 Young was one of the examples and that 1255 00:46:09,830 --> 00:46:06,130 got me dragged in because Neil Young 1256 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:09,840 grew up in my city so I have been 1257 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:12,490 dragged kicking and screaming from step 1258 00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:14,650 to step so I have great compassion for 1259 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:18,540 people who are don't understand and I 1260 00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:22,330 always say that if it weren't for my 1261 00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:23,800 experiences I would probably be in the 1262 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,270 nuts and bolts still and the universe's 1263 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:30,640 always has been and always will be and 1264 00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:33,130 that we as beings always have been and 1265 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:37,660 always will be so I always sort of fight 1266 00:46:41,490 --> 00:46:39,430 against people who say we need 1267 00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:41,500 disclosure now we and I say we've got 1268 00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:43,900 eternity it's all about living and the 1269 00:46:48,990 --> 00:46:47,200 basic bottom line is you and I if it's a 1270 00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:49,000 multiple life thing if it's not that's 1271 00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:50,920 just one life then it all changes but if 1272 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:52,710 it's multiple lives reincarnation 1273 00:46:58,060 --> 00:46:54,970 everything changes because then the 1274 00:47:00,430 --> 00:46:58,070 situation is you and I 1275 00:47:03,490 --> 00:47:00,440 both agreed before we came into this 1276 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:03,500 life to do certain things to achieve 1277 00:47:07,210 --> 00:47:05,450 certain things we came into this world 1278 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:07,220 we are going to leave this world we're 1279 00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:09,170 going to die and the only thing that we 1280 00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:12,230 have to worry about is what it was I 1281 00:47:16,990 --> 00:47:14,840 what did I assign myself to do and I'm 1282 00:47:19,930 --> 00:47:17,000 am I doing it so we work on our own 1283 00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:19,940 evolution and the way what happens is 1284 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:22,040 it's almost like the way the CIA builds 1285 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,290 the UFO story is they put this stuff in 1286 00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:26,720 fictional stories in Hollywood and the 1287 00:47:30,580 --> 00:47:28,820 more people talk about it the more you 1288 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:30,590 and I discussed this and we bring up 1289 00:47:36,490 --> 00:47:33,290 these ideas the higher the consciousness 1290 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:36,500 Rises that things don't it's we are no 1291 00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:38,090 different than any other social or 1292 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,950 political movement the women's right to 1293 00:47:46,210 --> 00:47:41,920 vote Hillary Clinton talks about this 1294 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:46,220 1848 was the first time that the women's 1295 00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:47,930 right to vote issue was brought up and 1296 00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:49,880 they started to build groups and 1297 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:51,620 demonstrate and stuff a guy they didn't 1298 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:55,040 get the vote till 1920 it was a long 1299 00:48:00,220 --> 00:47:57,770 overnight same as Greenpeace the 1300 00:48:01,630 --> 00:48:00,230 environmental movements it was decades 1301 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:01,640 and decades and decades before they ever 1302 00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:03,290 got off the ground and we'd like with 1303 00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:04,670 the women's right to vote even when they 1304 00:48:08,350 --> 00:48:06,200 got the right to vote they're still not 1305 00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:08,360 equal so we're no different than any 1306 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:10,340 other social political movement is that 1307 00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:13,370 we don't get to have disclosure or we 1308 00:48:16,750 --> 00:48:14,750 don't get to have the answer because we 1309 00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:16,760 think it's important a lot of kids are 1310 00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:19,070 dying of childhood cancer and they will 1311 00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:20,510 die because nobody cares because there's 1312 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:21,680 only ten of them out that certain 1313 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:23,690 disease because it's important doesn't 1314 00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:25,490 mean it has to be disclosed the only 1315 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:27,620 thing is important is what is my 1316 00:48:31,870 --> 00:48:29,570 contribution to the thing and that we 1317 00:48:34,810 --> 00:48:31,880 have eternity to do this so that I'm 1318 00:48:38,110 --> 00:48:34,820 with maybe somebody doesn't understand I 1319 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:38,120 was at that level one time and so I've 1320 00:48:44,590 --> 00:48:40,310 lived by two premises I was raised very 1321 00:48:45,850 --> 00:48:44,600 religious family and what I was so I was 1322 00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:45,860 very familiar with the Bible and in the 1323 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:48,920 Bible it says too much is given much as 1324 00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:51,530 much as expected and as I said at the 1325 00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:53,030 beginning of the interview I was 1326 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:55,070 obsessed with near-death experiences in 1327 00:49:00,160 --> 00:48:57,290 Edgar Cayce and Edgar Cayce said 1328 00:49:01,570 --> 00:49:00,170 knowledge not used is sin those are 1329 00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,580 things that have always driven me in my 1330 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:04,160 life is if you don't know what's going 1331 00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:06,290 on in the UFO field you're ignorant of 1332 00:49:10,450 --> 00:49:07,540 the UFO field you don't believe it 1333 00:49:11,830 --> 00:49:10,460 you're going to be cut to slack but if 1334 00:49:14,350 --> 00:49:11,840 you know what's going on 1335 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,360 you have the answers and you don't do 1336 00:49:18,070 --> 00:49:16,400 anything with it you're in a way worse 1337 00:49:20,980 --> 00:49:18,080 situation it's like too much is given 1338 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:20,990 much is expected so I feel honored to be 1339 00:49:26,260 --> 00:49:23,440 in the UFO field because I tell people 1340 00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:26,270 that you're in the UFO field and a lot 1341 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:27,830 of experiences because it can be a 1342 00:49:31,180 --> 00:49:30,050 little bit of a tough life or even if 1343 00:49:33,250 --> 00:49:31,190 you're a researcher you're not getting 1344 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:33,260 respect and I say you've got to realize 1345 00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:36,770 in the UFO field that you are in the 1346 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:39,740 Superbowl of all stories this is the 1347 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:43,010 biggest story that will ever be told and 1348 00:49:47,890 --> 00:49:45,110 you could have been an untouchable in 1349 00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:47,900 the streets of Calcutta India and you 1350 00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:50,300 could spend your life in a junkyard 1351 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:52,100 every day looking for something valuable 1352 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:55,010 enough to sell for food for tomorrow you 1353 00:49:58,300 --> 00:49:56,450 didn't get that life you've got to be 1354 00:50:01,180 --> 00:49:58,310 playing in the Super Bowl of all stories 1355 00:50:02,770 --> 00:50:01,190 and you should feel really honored to be 1356 00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:02,780 in this game that you've got to play in 1357 00:50:06,340 --> 00:50:03,830 this game you've got to be at the 1358 00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:06,350 leading edge of this story and then do 1359 00:50:09,790 --> 00:50:07,880 what you're supposed to do to elevate 1360 00:50:11,710 --> 00:50:09,800 the story so when you tell people the 1361 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:11,720 experiences they realize like yes I do 1362 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:12,890 have a mission I have something 1363 00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:16,850 important to do and try to emphasize the 1364 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:19,460 people that we have this very exciting 1365 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:21,310 story that we're telling and that we 1366 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:24,050 understand more than we think that the 1367 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:26,330 people on the street understand but that 1368 00:50:30,340 --> 00:50:28,130 gives you a big responsibility to do 1369 00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:30,350 something with that knowledge and so you 1370 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:33,350 do your videos I do my lecture things 1371 00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:35,810 and that's all I say to people is do as 1372 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:39,920 much as you can and appreciate the fact 1373 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:41,450 that you got to play in this game and 1374 00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:43,730 nothing nothing will go wrong because I 1375 00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:45,950 had three big events I had the download' 1376 00:50:49,870 --> 00:50:48,080 experience that influenced me I had the 1377 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:49,880 UFO experience the third thing that 1378 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:52,130 influenced me as a game was a lecture I 1379 00:50:56,740 --> 00:50:53,990 didn't want to go in it was a lecture by 1380 00:50:59,890 --> 00:50:56,750 dr. Michael Newton dr. Michael Newton is 1381 00:51:01,600 --> 00:50:59,900 famous for the theory about life between 1382 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:01,610 lives so he will take some into a past 1383 00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:03,710 life he'll let them die and then he'll 1384 00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:05,150 say okay were talking next and he takes 1385 00:51:09,070 --> 00:51:06,980 them into the world between lives and 1386 00:51:11,170 --> 00:51:09,080 it's the spirit world where you're you 1387 00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:11,180 go in front of the the council and you 1388 00:51:15,850 --> 00:51:13,550 you have a life review and stuff like 1389 00:51:17,830 --> 00:51:15,860 that and he did 7,000 people and he 1390 00:51:20,260 --> 00:51:17,840 everybody said the same thing and what 1391 00:51:24,730 --> 00:51:20,270 he said which influenced me greatly is 1392 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:24,740 when you die you have you you're met by 1393 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:27,050 former people your family or whatever 1394 00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:30,050 that have died to help lead you over you 1395 00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:31,550 have a spirit guide that goes with you 1396 00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:33,380 and you go in front of the life review 1397 00:51:37,540 --> 00:51:35,030 and but you'll have between three and 1398 00:51:39,130 --> 00:51:37,550 twelve people on this life review the 1399 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,140 guide will stand on your left hand side 1400 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:41,119 behind you on the left hand side and 1401 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:43,130 you'll be facing these people and they 1402 00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:44,480 only ask you one question 1403 00:51:49,089 --> 00:51:47,359 how did it work out because you're the 1404 00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:49,099 person that set it up you're the person 1405 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:51,710 that that did the play you're the one 1406 00:51:54,910 --> 00:51:53,210 that said I want to do this I want to do 1407 00:51:57,250 --> 00:51:54,920 that I want to achieve this and I want 1408 00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:57,260 to achieve that and Newton mask Newton 1409 00:52:00,880 --> 00:51:59,210 they said what do people what do people 1410 00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:00,890 say he says everybody says the same 1411 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:03,920 thing I could have done more they feel 1412 00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:06,290 regret I didn't do this I said I was 1413 00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:07,430 going to do this I said I was going to 1414 00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:08,960 do this I didn't do this and they feel 1415 00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:10,609 regret that they didn't do enough with 1416 00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:12,260 their life and so to me that's where I 1417 00:52:15,460 --> 00:52:14,089 live my life is not what anybody else 1418 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:15,470 was doing even though sometimes you get 1419 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:17,210 sort of dragged into this that these 1420 00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:18,770 people who understand you're trying to 1421 00:52:23,050 --> 00:52:21,320 you know trying to evangelize them and 1422 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:23,060 bring them over to your side and stuff 1423 00:52:28,690 --> 00:52:24,710 but in the end it basically comes down 1424 00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:28,700 to what what am I doing here and am i 1425 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:30,560 doing what I supposed to do here if it's 1426 00:52:33,370 --> 00:52:32,089 only one life then that doesn't exist 1427 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:33,380 but if it's multiple lives I'll 1428 00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,810 guarantee that's a scenario is that 1429 00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:37,520 we've agreed to do something and the 1430 00:52:44,650 --> 00:52:41,510 question is are we doing it my my main 1431 00:52:46,990 --> 00:52:44,660 website is presidential UFO calm I don't 1432 00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:47,000 put that much honoured anymore 1433 00:52:52,089 --> 00:52:50,030 I recommend a site if people are 1434 00:52:52,329 --> 00:52:52,099 interested in downloads and music and 1435 00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:52,339 stuff 1436 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:56,630 I have a Facebook site called paranormal 1437 00:53:02,410 --> 00:53:00,800 world of creativity Facebook site and I 1438 00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:02,420 put all all the download stuff that 1439 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:05,859 comes up to new music things that I find 1440 00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:10,250 I've just released three books one is 1441 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:12,740 the Clinton UFO story book which details 1442 00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,510 the very great involvement of the 1443 00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:16,640 Clintons over the years in the in the 1444 00:53:25,660 --> 00:53:21,430 UFO mystery I released a book called 1445 00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:25,670 inspire the creative world of the 1446 00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:27,230 paranormal world of creativity where I 1447 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:31,310 go through savants Nobel Prizes music 1448 00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:34,640 art all the different faculties of 1449 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:37,910 people who were inspired and got ideas 1450 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:38,690 instant 1451 00:53:44,350 --> 00:53:42,290 and some very bizarre stories near-death 1452 00:53:45,820 --> 00:53:44,360 experiences stuff like that I did that 1453 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:45,830 book and then the book I've just 1454 00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:49,850 released last week was managing magic 1455 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:51,740 the government UFO disclosure plan which 1456 00:53:57,310 --> 00:53:54,890 looks at what I say is a plan over 70 1457 00:54:00,700 --> 00:53:57,320 years to gradually leak the UFO story to 1458 00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:00,710 the to the UFO community and have a book 1459 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:02,950 coming out it's on Amazon right now 1460 00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,210 taking orders it'll be released in 1461 00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:07,760 August and that is the story of how I 1462 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:09,590 get dragged down the rabbit hole and 1463 00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,690 that was the book that I never could get 1464 00:54:16,180 --> 00:54:14,000 published in 1970s it's now been 1465 00:54:18,850 --> 00:54:16,190 published and it now has an option for a 1466 00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:18,860 movie on it and that story is called 1467 00:54:23,410 --> 00:54:21,560 Charlie Red Star and it ties in the 1468 00:54:25,450 --> 00:54:23,420 nuclear weapons which is a critically 1469 00:54:28,510 --> 00:54:25,460 important part of the UFO phenomena I 1470 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:28,520 lived just north of the American border 1471 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:32,090 and just south of us is was 300 1472 00:54:36,970 --> 00:54:34,850 Minuteman 3 nuclear missiles and the 1473 00:54:39,010 --> 00:54:36,980 number one target of the Russians was 1474 00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:39,020 those missiles it's not New York it's 1475 00:54:42,970 --> 00:54:41,000 not Washington because unless you take 1476 00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:42,980 out the American missiles you're not 1477 00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:45,110 going to see Russia New York getting 1478 00:54:49,570 --> 00:54:46,790 destroyed so that was the number one 1479 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:49,580 target and in 1975 when I had my 1480 00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:51,290 sightings when this town got inundated 1481 00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,630 they put a hundred new nuclear weapons 1482 00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:55,520 in there and they were put in there to 1483 00:55:00,010 --> 00:54:58,610 shoot down the Russian missiles which 1484 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:00,020 would try to take out the North Dakota 1485 00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:02,570 missiles and it was a pre Star Wars it 1486 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:04,520 was the Star Wars on the ground and it 1487 00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:06,890 was there for only one year 1975 that's 1488 00:55:12,070 --> 00:55:09,980 when all these sightings so I detail the 1489 00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,080 connections of the nuclear weapons and I 1490 00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:14,480 tell this whole story of this town where 1491 00:55:18,460 --> 00:55:17,180 when I pulled high school it was over 50 1492 00:55:21,130 --> 00:55:18,470 percent of the kids in the high school 1493 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:21,140 said yes they had seen this thing it was 1494 00:55:25,870 --> 00:55:23,210 the whole town knew this thing was there 1495 00:55:27,850 --> 00:55:25,880 and so that book will be released in 1496 00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:27,860 August and that's basically what I'm